I suppose that one could take such a compliment as a sort of insult, but I have never seen it that way. Can you a man, If you're he doesn't hold? For example, some fans of the film Fight Club think the titular activity is awesome, while others regard the whole movie as a criticism of violent masculinity; and then there are many, many people who just half-remember a famous quote or two and little else about the overall context. It is amazing to see that Kipling and Mark Twain have become controversial -- are their opponents even reading their works before donning the armor of righteous indignation to do battle against the ghosts of two great humanists! Lines taken in isolation may paint a nasty picture, but each poem should be read in its entirety, in context, and I am convinced there is nothing inherently racist about 'Gunga Din'. In all his writings I never had the distasteful feeling of racist dislike. Displaying a tinge of this outdated norm is a poor cause to indict the reputation of a 19th-century poet.
And call a man a fool If for wealth he doesn't strive Chorus: Then Mister you're a better man than I Yeah Mister You're a better man than I Oh Mister You're a better man than I Yeah Mister You're a better man than I Could you condemn a man If your faith he doesn't hold? Can you condemn a man, If you're faith he doesn't hold? This poem is an explicit reference to : Givin' drink to poor damned souls, An' I'll get a swig in hell from Gunga Din! The most successful rendition was recorded by American band , who earned a minor national hit with the tune. Lyrically, the song makes a statement directed toward issues concerning the era such as judging others based on , government intervention, and use of violence. What is and what was are different matters. I'll take Kipling over the Antifa, limousine, or any other kind of Liberal any day. Many Thanks for weighing in 'with us' on the side of poor departed and therefore personally defenseless R. Today people look at English colonial beliefs and label them racist and bigoted. Can you read his mind By the clothes that he wears? Attending the University of Kansas, he earned a B.
Is this more important, Than the stories that he tells? Say the colour of his skin Is the colour of his soul? Can you see a bad man By the pattern on his tie? Could you tell a wise man, By the way he speaks or spells? The Yardbirds: The Band that Launched Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page. Natale Chiara I've heard the phrase all my life born 1948 and my wife a year older has, too. Could you tell a wise man, By the way he speaks or spells? It's not a phrase that communicates much. Kipling was born and spent his first five years in India, and then lived there again after school from age 16 to 23. But I have used the Princess Bride quote, especially with my kids; it's usually understood even by people who haven't seen the movie.
I had to do some deep diving to ensure myself that this really was an official university write up because it reads more like a sophomoric attempt at satire: Born in the Land of Oz, Dr. Gunga Din is subordinate to, and victimized by, the narrator. In this poem the hyperbole is actually heightened by adding that Gunga Din even comes down to Hell to give a drink to the damned souls suggesting perhaps not even intentionally that the poet's present state alluded to here is also a kind of hell? Well, Mr, you're a better man than I, Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I, Oh, Mr, you're a better man than I, Yeah, Mr, you're a better man than I. I believe a writer of a previous century is not to be held accountable for anything based on modern concepts of political correctness, but also agree controversial quotations are best avoided! The poem was published as one of the set of martial poems called the. I believe I've heard my mother-in-law native to Ohio use it as well. And their attitudes persist in the present, particularly in Ango-American imperial racist viewpoints.
Chorus: Then Mister you're a better man than I Yeah Mister You're a better man than I Oh Mister You're a better man than I Yeah Mister You're a better man than I Could you tell a wise man By the way he speaks or spells? It was not because of his race, but rather his class. In the end, he sacrificed his life blowing a bugle to warn the British of an attack by the irredeemable but elusive Thug tribe, summoning the cavalry just in time to make a climatic charge which, of course, routed the Thugs and put an end to their reign of terror. Getting your meaning across relies on both knowledge and a rather particular assumption of good faith from your audience. An animated version featuring was made in 1964, as part of. He exhibited so little awareness of his own heritage that his character seemed two-dimensional. Could you say that men, For king and country all must die? Nobody can know your anguish without experiencing it in their own life. Of course, many have seen the starring Cary Grant, Victor McLaglen, and Douglas Fairbanks.
King resided in Alaska and Portland before settling in Kansas City for his wonder years. Can you see a bad man, By the pattern on his tie? In 1969, , with Mike Hugg on lead vocals, released the song on their album. It seems that to understand the Gunga-Din reference, one would have to read the entire poem. I am a white man, and if a black person were to say that to or about me, would I consider it anything other than a literate person saying a kind thing? I would suggest that professor King could better spend his time studying how Leftists exploit culture to advance their multi-faceted agenda. It depends upon where you stand. Indians of the lower classes were - much the same as African slaves in America - considered to be something less than human, and were treated as such.
The English singer included a setting of the poem on his record of Barrack Room Ballads. For him, the poem was historical. Say the of his skin, Is the of his soul? Can you read his mind, By the that he wears? D -----5--5--------7---7--------4------4- A ---5---5--5----7---7---7----4------4--- E -3-----------5------------2------2----- verse 1: G A F m Can you judge a man, by the way he wears his hair G A F m Can you read his mind, by the clothes that he wears E F m G A Can you see a bad man by the pattern on his tie Chorus: Bm A Bm A Well then mister you're a better man than I, Yeah, mister you're a better man than I Bm A Bm A F m Oh, mister you're a better man than I, yeah, mister you're a better man than I verse 2: G A F m Could you tell a wise man, by the way he speaks or spells G A F m Is this more important, than the stories that he tells E F m G A And call a man a fool if for wealth he doesn't strive Chorus: Bm A Bm A Well then mister you're a better man than I, Yeah, mister you're a better man than I Bm A Bm A F m Oh, mister you're a better man than I, yeah, mister you're a better man than I Solo: F m verse 3: G A F m Can you condemn a man, if your faith he doesn't hold G A F m Say the colour of his skin, is the color of his soul E F m G A Could you say that men for king and country all must die Chorus: Bm A Bm A Well then mister you're a better man than I, Yeah, mister you're a better man than I Bm A Bm A F m Oh, mister you're a better man than I, yeah, mister you're a better man than I. This is a rant, not a serious answer. Can you read his mind, By the clothes that he wears? Soldiers of the Queen journal of the Victorian Military Society. He did have an eye for the foibles of different cultures, but does not seem to have held these differences as immutable.
Look at Gandhi, Lincoln, anybody you want. I first heard, then read, and later viewed the quotation as a youngster I am now 75 , and to this day I regard it as one of the most introspective and enlightening of all. Quite the opposite, he made me feel for the Indians he described. Can you judge a man By the way he wears his hair? History and culture is liquid. .
Bonaparte couldn't break a British square, but Fuzzy did. What many members here have pointed out is that a specific literary reference such as Gunga Din, particularly when burdened with controversial labels for no good reason, should be used in conversation only with somebody who we are certain knows the right context and meaning and will interpret it correctly without taking spurious offense. I'm a Man live 11. It is well known that Kipling had great love for India and for Empire. A lot of the epithets against Kipling are the same old Lefty trash thrown at anyone who stands for values. We no longer teach those things or insist we have experiences that make us resilient.